Nome Alaska Abductions Real?

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CLufoBeliever

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Hello,

I just watched the trailer for the November 6th 2009 release of a movie called "The Fourth Kind" (Trailer at bottom of post) The movie is about an investigation by a local psychiatrist into an abnormally large series of alien abductions reported in a town called Nome, Alaska. I've search for any independent online stories pertaining to this town and the abductions that were supposedly the center of this "real case study" as the trailer proposes, and I found nothing that wasn't created before August 2009.

So, I thought what better place to ask than on the premier UFO forum. Have any of you heard of this case in Nome, Alaska? If so, where can I learn more about it? If not and you are a UFO/abduction buff, what is your prognosis (real or not)?

Thanks!
 
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startledeasily

Curious
  • #3
CLufoBeliever said:
Hello,

I just watched the trailer for the November 6th 2009 release of a movie called "The Fourth Kind" (Trailer: ) The movie is about an investigation by a local psychiatrist into an abnormally large series of alien abductions reported in a town called Nome, Alaska. I've search for any independent online stories pertaining to this town and the abductions that were supposedly the center of this "real case study" as the trailer proposes, and I found nothing that wasn't created before August 2009.

So, I thought what better place to ask than on the premier UFO forum. Have any of you heard of this case in Nome, Alaska? If so, where can I learn more about it? If not and you are a UFO/abduction buff, what is your prognosis (real or not)?

Thanks!


Hey Believer,

Someone on abovetopsecret posted this link. I think it might be connected to it since the psychiatrist has the same name as in the movie. But could be total BS. Still looking for more evidence.

http://alaskapsychiatryjournal.org/entries...re-Effects.html
 
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MayaMan

Curious
  • #4
Jacob Syd said:
Hey Believer,

Someone on abovetopsecret posted this link. I think it might be connected to it since the psychiatrist has the same name as in the movie. But could be total BS. Still looking for more evidence.

http://alaskapsychiatryjournal.org/entries...re-Effects.html

Did a quick WhoIs search on the url and it turns out it is registered through a proxy company (thus keeping the identity of the people making the site anonymous) AND didn't even exist until August 13th of this year. So, I very, very seriously doubt it is legit and is most likely viral marketing for the movie. I, too, am looking for information. I can tell you this, though. The town shown in the trailer is NOT Nome, AK. Nome is right on the Sound, not nestled in a small mountain valley. Of course, in most of these sorts of things, the name of the town and the participants is usually changed. So, if it IS all real, it wouldn't have to be Nome, or Alaska, or Dr. Abigail Tyler.

Did you ever see the video of the next generation software for rendering 3D characters...Emily or something like that. It's a computer generated model of a human actress performing very, very realistically. At one point, they pixelate her face. Something about the Dr. in this trailer strikes me as identical. I'm wondering if some of the "archived footage" is similarly generated material using the actors' performances, but CG models. Just a thought.
 
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fleone123

Curious
  • #5
Hi all,
I do believe in aliens as well, I did a little researh on this "Nome" missing persons issue and it is 100% TRUE.
The FBI is even heavily involved:

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http://fightforjustice.blogspot.com/2006/0...ome-alaska.html

FBI: No Serial Killer in Nome, Alaska! Very Interesting!
FBI sees no serial killer, cites drinking, exposure.
By TOM KIZZIA, Anchorage Daily News

(Published: June 30, 2006)
NOME, Alaska (AP) - A string of disappearances and mysterious deaths of Native villagers visiting Nome was not the work of a serial killer, an FBI analysis of the cases has concluded.

An FBI study of 24 missing persons and suspicious death cases assembled by Nome police said excessive alcohol consumption and a harsh winter climate were common ties in many of the cases. In nine of the cases, where no bodies were ever found, state and local investigators said they will continue to search for new leads.

The FBI conclusions were summarized at a news conference Thursday morning in Nome called by the Native nonprofit Kawerak Inc., which has been working with law enforcement and other Nome-area Native and civic groups on the disappearances.

A list of victims' names in 20 cases was released by local officials last year in an effort to solicit information from the public. Nome police said they plan to talk with families of the victims in the coming weeks before releasing an updated list of names and an explanation of what they think happened.

Of the 24 cases, three are being left alone at the request of families, two had already been prosecuted criminally, and one was a snowmachine accident, said Nome Police Chief Craig Moates. In nine of the cases, a re-examination of available evidence produced "definitive outcomes," Moates said. He said alcohol was a common factor in those cases.

Though Moates offered no details Thursday, some of the dead are known to have died of exposure or from falling off a jetty into the cold water of the Snake River. Questions had been raised about the possibility of muggers preying on drunks. As concern spread in Seward Peninsula villages, the unsolved cases became a top priority two years ago for the region's Native leaders, including the Norton Sound Health Corp. and the Bering Straits Native Corp.

"No evidence exists to support the conclusion that a serial killer has been targeting Native people in Nome," Moates said Thursday, summarizing the FBI conclusions. The FBI cited the lack of trauma shown on recovered bodies, the four-decades-plus time span of the cases, and the absence of a common suspect, Moates said.

Kawerak officials said they hoped the conclusions - and the fact that the cases had received a fresh look - would help allay fears in many of the region's villages about the dangers of visiting Nome.

"The fact that the FBI was able to come up with this response hopefully will help people sleep better," said Kawerak tribal law specialist Karlin Itchoak.

Native officials said distrust of Nome police had reached a new low following the murder conviction of a Nome officer earlier this year and said efforts to rebuild relationships still had a long way to go.

"I think there's a certain comfort level that these cases have been looked at by other than local law enforcement," Kawerak president Loretta Bullard said.

But several officials cautioned that the FBI conclusions were based only on a review of information made available by Nome police. They said information about possible criminal links might still be available from villagers who have been reluctant to talk to police.

"My concern has always been that there is information in the Native community that has not been brought forward," said Bering Straits Native Corp. attorney Gail Schubert, who called the pattern of disappearances odd and disturbing.

Kawerak's Itchoak said villagers can contact him directly if they don't want to talk to police. The FBI is not doing a separate investigation but said it would review any new information. The community safety group that has coordinated the public information effort will meet again in September to plan its next steps, Itchoak said.

Moates said the FBI had offered suggestions for follow-up investigations in the cases. He provided no details but said some of the work it suggested had already been undertaken by police.

Attention to the missing persons cases has already brought some changes to Nome. Volunteer safety patrols have hit the streets after midnight during busy times in winter, such as the Iditarod Trail Sled Dog Race and the week Permanent Fund dividend checks are issued.

"This is not just volunteers from the Native community," said Berda Willson, chairwoman of the Regional Wellness Forum, which organized the patrols. "People care about others in the region."

Moates has also flown to area communities with Kawerak officials to discuss village concerns. He became police chief in 2004, and his efforts have drawn praise from local officials.

The rollicking bars of Front Street make Nome an unusual hub for the Alaska Bush. Kawerak chairman Robert Keith of Elim said Thursday that the region's missing-person totals may be higher than others because of the legal drinking in bars. The region's villages have all voted themselves dry.

FBI profilers met with leaders of the Nome organizations for more than three hours Wednesday to discuss their review. They did not participate in Thursday's news conference and deferred questions to Moates.

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Information from: Anchorage Daily News, http://www.adn.com
Copyright © 2006 The Anchorage Daily News (www.adn.com
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meandmyarrow

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  • #6
CLufoBeliever said:
Hello,

I just watched the trailer for the November 6th 2009 release of a movie called "The Fourth Kind" (Trailer: ) The movie is about an investigation by a local psychiatrist into an abnormally large series of alien abductions reported in a town called Nome, Alaska. I've search for any independent online stories pertaining to this town and the abductions that were supposedly the center of this "real case study" as the trailer proposes, and I found nothing that wasn't created before August 2009.

So, I thought what better place to ask than on the premier UFO forum. Have any of you heard of this case in Nome, Alaska? If so, where can I learn more about it? If not and you are a UFO/abduction buff, what is your prognosis (real or not)?

Thanks!

Careful. It's that pesky Hollywood marketing, ya know the set-up and pitch. I haven't heard of any Nome activity. All I know is the winters are
ghastly and there are no roads going in or out to my understanding.
 
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iopialaska

Curious
  • #7
CLufoBeliever said:
Hello,

I just watched the trailer for the November 6th 2009 release of a movie called "The Fourth Kind" (Trailer: ) The movie is about an investigation by a local psychiatrist into an abnormally large series of alien abductions reported in a town called Nome, Alaska. I've search for any independent online stories pertaining to this town and the abductions that were supposedly the center of this "real case study" as the trailer proposes, and I found nothing that wasn't created before August 2009.
So, I thought what better place to ask than on the premier UFO forum. Have any of you heard of this case in Nome, Alaska? If so, where can I learn more about it? If not and you are a UFO/abduction buff, what is your prognosis (real or not)?

Thanks!



Well friend, you didn't look hard enough. I have been studing and documenting UFO cases and other paranormal happenings in the state of Alaska for over 15 years and if you really take the time to look, you will see the copyright info at the bottom of my work says 2000 although I had most of the info on a previous 1998 website address, that no longer exists.
I really hate it when speculation takes on fact, facts will always win, to find them you just have to be more thourough in your research. We are listed as one of the trailer's references, how in the hay did you miss that in your researching the facts of the movie, or are you just crying wolf after some quick scan of the internet?

IOPIAlaska
 
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iopialaska

Curious
  • #8
meandmyarrow said:
Careful. It's that pesky Hollywood marketing, ya know the set-up and pitch. I haven't heard of any Nome activity. All I know is the winters are
ghastly and there are no roads going in or out to my understanding.


Are you still sitting there waiting to hear about activity in Nome? It doesn't happen that way....
Your understanding of Nome would broaden if you looked into it. There are no trees in Nome, there are roads but you have to fly-in or by boat. As for your Hollywood marketing anology, I suppose you came up with that grand verdict after researching the facts, right?
 
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limbo_101

Curious
  • #9
wow. I did some resreach, and she actually exists. And she does sleep studies. And her daughter was abducted. And her husband commited sucide. whoa
 
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Pittbeliever

Interested
  • #11
i just watched the theatrical trailer for that movie for the first time just now
and that sh*t down right freaked me out haha
will someone hold my hand? lol
 
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x181

Curious
  • #12
They are not real. Both websites referred to in this thread, alaskapsychiatryjournal.org and alaskanewsarchive.com were created on August 12, 2009 and August 13, 2009 with articles falsely backdated. Nice try guys, get back to your set.
 
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TKufoBeliever

Interested
  • #13
x181 said:
They are not real. Both websites referred to in this thread, alaskapsychiatryjournal.org and alaskanewsarchive.com were created on August 12, 2009 and August 13, 2009 with articles falsely backdated. Nice try guys, get back to your set.

Can you please let us all know how you came to the conclusion that they were created on the dates you referred to? Just so that we can see for ourselves.

(Note: I created a new account but I'm the creator of this thread. Thx for the replies, I too have found many pieces of material on this created suspiciously on apx August 13. But, I'm still looking."
 
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TKufoBeliever

Interested
  • #14
IOPIAlaska said:
Well friend, you didn't look hard enough. I have been studing and documenting UFO cases and other paranormal happenings in the state of Alaska for over 15 years and if you really take the time to look, you will see the copyright info at the bottom of my work says 2000 although I had most of the info on a previous 1998 website address, that no longer exists.
I really hate it when speculation takes on fact, facts will always win, to find them you just have to be more thourough in your research. We are listed as one of the trailer's references, how in the hay did you miss that in your researching the facts of the movie, or are you just crying wolf after some quick scan of the internet?

IOPIAlaska

Thanks for that. I'd really appreciate a link to your work.
 
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I_HATE_Alien_Stories

Curious
  • #15
First let me preface all of this by saying I likely won't be back to the site so I apologize for the one post and run style here. I HATE aliens and had nightmares about them all through my childhood so this research is partially to discredit the movie for my own sanity and partially because I hate hoaxes.

If you look into the source for the page: http://alaskanewsarchive.com/news/archive/...er-Profile.html

You'll find /* 728x90, created 8/24/09- Alaska News Archive */

Even if the writers etc made this site to try and beef up their story, someone put a creation date on the page. So the site proclaims "July, 1997" and the contradicts itself in the source. If someone made this site for the movie the least they could have done is have some foresight and make it a while back so it would look like they were legitimately posting the archive. Also, when you traverse to any other page on that domain the same information is embedded in the source.

ie.
http://alaskanewsarchive.com/news/archive/...Struggling.html
http://alaskanewsarchive.com/news/archive/...-By-Aliens.html
(This one even mentions aliens, twice on the same sparsely populated site? I think not.)
http://alaskanewsarchive.com/news/archive/...liam-Tyler.html
http://alaskanewsarchive.com/news/archive/...es-On-Pace.html
http://alaskanewsarchive.com/news/archive/...t-Dividend.html

Anyway, I could go on but it now appears that the entire site went up on 8/24/09. Fake fake fake.


Whois lookup is below:

Registrar: FastDomain Inc.
Provider Name....: HostMonster.Com
Provider Whois...: whois.hostmonster.com
Provider Homepage: http://www.hostmonster.com/

Domain Name: ALASKANEWSARCHIVE.COM

Created on..............: 2009-08-12 16:44:47 GMT
Expires on..............: 2010-08-12 16:44:47 GMT
Last modified on........: 2009-08-12 16:44:47 GMT

Registrant Info: (FAST-12785295)
Attn: alaskanewsarchive.com
HostMonster.com INC
1958 South 950 East
HOST UNLIMITED DOMAINS *FREE*
Hosting Accounts starting at ONLY $6.95 per month -
Provo, Utah 84606
United States
Phone: +1.8017659400
Fax..: +1.8017651992
Email: support@hostmonster.com
Last modified: 2009-04-10 18:20:59 GMT

Administrative Info: (FAST-12785295)
Attn: alaskanewsarchive.com
HostMonster.com INC
1958 South 950 East
HOST UNLIMITED DOMAINS *FREE*
Hosting Accounts starting at ONLY $6.95 per month -
Provo, Utah 84606
United States
Phone: +1.8017659400
Fax..: +1.8017651992
Email: support@hostmonster.com
Last modified: 2009-04-10 18:20:59 GMT

Technical Info: (FAST-12785295)
Attn: alaskanewsarchive.com
HostMonster.com INC
1958 South 950 East
HOST UNLIMITED DOMAINS *FREE*
Hosting Accounts starting at ONLY $6.95 per month -
Provo, Utah 84606
United States
Phone: +1.8017659400
Fax..: +1.8017651992
Email: support@hostmonster.com
Last modified: 2009-04-10 18:20:59 GMT

Status: Locked

Domain servers in listed order:

NS1.HOSTMONSTER.COM
NS2.HOSTMONSTER.COM
=-=-=-=


Current Registrar: FASTDOMAIN, INC.
IP Address: 66.147.240.183 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
IP Location: US(UNITED STATES)
Lock Status: clientTransferProhibited
DMOZ no listings
Y! Directory: see listings
Data as of: 23-Apr-2008

The true nail in the coffin?

Created on..............: 2009-08-12 16:44:47 GMT
Expires on..............: 2010-08-12 16:44:47 GMT
Last modified on........: 2009-08-12 16:44:47 GMT



Essentially, the domain registration is anonymous thru a 3rd party domain registration. Check the IP address of the person who posted that website and you will likely find one of two things... An L.A. or close by IP, OR use of a proxy (it will show as anonymous or from some other country).

*bow*
 
DoctorPibb

DoctorPibb

Interested
  • #16
Ughghghgh I hate aliens said:
First let me preface all of this by saying I likely won't be back to the site so I apologize for the one post and run style here. I HATE aliens and had nightmares about them all through my childhood so this research is partially to discredit the movie for my own sanity and partially because I hate hoaxes.

huh?

you hate aliens or your nightmares or hoaxes or movies?
what does discrediting a movie do for your sanity?

we know no movie s going to be 100% real. its not a documentary.
question is - how much of it is real. is it based on one case or many? what sort of 'archive' footage will they show?
 
DoctorPibb

DoctorPibb

Interested
  • #17
IOPIAlaska said:
Well friend, you didn't look hard enough. I have been studing and documenting UFO cases and other paranormal happenings in the state of Alaska for over 15 years and if you really take the time to look, you will see the copyright info at the bottom of my work says 2000 although I had most of the info on a previous 1998 website address, that no longer exists.
I really hate it when speculation takes on fact, facts will always win, to find them you just have to be more thourough in your research. We are listed as one of the trailer's references, how in the hay did you miss that in your researching the facts of the movie, or are you just crying wolf after some quick scan of the internet?

IOPIAlaska


ZING!
Deeep breath....
 
deity787

deity787

Curious
  • #18
I seen the for the trailer for the movie saying it was based on true events. I don't know about that but i did some googling and found out this I dont think Dr. Abigail is a real person because i couldn't find any real information on her. Does anybody else know if they are any truth about alien abductions in Nome,Alaska? :(
 
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Pittbeliever

Interested
  • #19
I tried emailing Tom Kizzia who is the author of an article in the Anchorage daily news that ran a story about these abductions
found his email ...i think (tkizzia@adn.com) wrote a short email then quickly got a "DELIVERY FAILURE" message in my inbox
soooo im guessing either he's fake or a number of other things
heres the article im talking about,
 
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AlaskaBound

Curious
  • #20
WHAT! I am moving to Nome,Alaska!! WTF I hope this isn't true
 
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